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Show 115: Being an Independent Developer Today

What’s an independent developer today supposed to do?  There are more app stores than you can shake a stick at, and on this show Erik and Kelly talk about how developers can pick a home.  Kelly defends Microsoft.  Erik doesn’t.

Stuff we talk about on the show:

  • Windows Phones haven’t sold very well.  Maybe 1.7 million have been sold.
  • Folks like John Gruber are saying that Windows Phones deserve to sell better.
  • Erik feels bad because he helped talk developers into being early on the Windows Phone platform.  Overwhelmingly they haven’t made real money (yet?..).
  • Android people aren’t surfing the web nearly as much as iOS people.  Kelly points out that this is because it counts tablets.  Erik points out that just because Apple is winning at tablets doesn’t mean you shouldn’t count it.
  • Will the Kindle Fire be a huge hit?
  • Why would you use a Windows 8 slate over an iPad?  Kelly says maybe if you use office.  Erik counters with a ridiculous scenario involving a 10 hour stay in a coffee shop. And hipsters.
  • Erik finds a ridiculous reason to send a text to Kelly using Siri.
  • Erik talks about how it feels wrong to not say “thanks” to Siri.
  • Erik talks about the new sponsors.
  • Talking about Windows Phone success stories, there is Elbert Perez.  800k downloads and 20+k USD over ~4 months  (from GameFest).
  • We haven’t heard of many (any?…) real Windows Phone success stories (think hundreds of thousands of dollars).
  • Kelly talks about his Windows Phone game.

This Week in Silverlight – Windows Phone 7 and Bus Tracking

What’s new in Silverlight This Week in Silverlight

Recorded June 18, 2010

News  

  • Metro (Windows Phone 7) style Silverlight Desktop app.

  • Windows Phone 7 (WP7) devices out for devs next month?
  • Adam Kinney announces that the Expression Studio 4 Launch videos are online.
  • Jeff Prosise talks about dynamic loading of .xaps using MEF.
  • Data Driven Apps with MVVM series.
  • Charles Petzold on orientation strategies in Windows Phone 7.
  • videos on Coding4Fun for Shuffleboard Game for WP7 (thanks AndyB!).
  • Windows Phone 7 – I need this app contest.  Microsoft will pay you $5000 and build the app.

Rumors

Does Microsoft strategy have an iPad shaped hole in it?

arstechnica  thinks so. 

Brian is thinking about why there’s a hole in their strategy.  Is there a secret project in the works?  Hmm…

Brian is wondering about the upcoming tablets in the Microsoft world.

Erik wonders if it will be Windows 7 desktop.  Apparently, it will be Windows 7 embedded… which (to Erik) is mostly the desktop version.

Mike Hall has a preview of Windows Embedded Compact 7 (preview).  What a name.

Prototype of ASUS Eee Pad.

Erik and Kelly make up silly product names

Application Of The Week

Windows Phone 7 Bus Tracking App

Honorable mention – World Cup App by MSN Brazil (in Portugese)

Extra Conversation

Erik thinks that sharing your idea for an application is rarely a bad thing.  It’s the User Experience (Ux) that separates apps in the existing app stores.

Kelly points out that sharing youtube videos of your apps is also sharing your application’s Ux.

Brian points out that there might be Intellectual Property benefits to posting videos of your application.  It’s also their business story that’s important.

Guest Hosts

Brian Hendersonis a Silverlight Designer/Architect and INETA Community Champion. A few of the activities Brian can be found participating are flying (pilot), kayaking, hiking, or just taking video/photos.

Kelly White is an independent Silverlight Consultant. He previously lead the PDXUX.Net user group, and now runs the Portland Silverlight User Group with Erik Mork. Kelly has presented at user groups and code camps throughout the northwest on both Silverlight and WPF.

Music kindly provided by YACHT.

 

Silverlight Week – Silverlight Android?

What’s new in Silverlight This Week in Silverlight

Recorded May 14, 2010

News  

Rumors

Scott Guthrie talked to the Linked-In User Group

Office online (powered by Silverlight!) is coming out.

There are *lots* of ways to install Silverlight as an admin (including SMS and Group Policy, etc.).

Future pace of Silverlight releases… Scott didn’t really answer, but he pointed out the progress that has been made (appearing on more devices, outside the browser, etc.).  Scott also pointed out that there *are* differences between the Silverlight implementations.

Scott is looking at richer MVVM (ViewModel) tooling.  Erik often suggests this, and the community hates it :)

WPF vs Silverlight – Erik thinks the main reason to use WPF is now direct database access.  There are some exceptions (3D etc.) but the thing that should drive you to is the easier database access.  RIA Services and Data Services are harder than opening a DataReader.

Scott says that Microsoft is looking at (though certainly not comitting to…) Android support.  Brian points out that Monotouch is looking at this as well.  Erik points out that he wants native, seemless integration with the underlying platform.  Brian points out that Flash integration points can be weak.

Application Of The Week

Thumba - It’s kinda like Photoshop in your browser

Upcoming Events

May 13 Boston, MA, US – “The Kinney and I” with @jesseliberty and @adkinn covering #silverlight #blend #wp7 #ie9
Windows Phone 7 Development Jump-Start Event
 May 18 – Redmond, WA, US – http://bit.ly/cNB5cU
 May 25 – Santa Clara, CA, US – http://bit.ly/cNB5cU

Portland CodeCamp
 May 21- Portland, OR, USA
 http://PortlandCodeCamp.org/2010/Sessions  #

*The Sparkling Client Crew will be here*

ReMIX10 – http://live.visitmix.com/ReMIX
 May 21 – Moscow – http://bit.ly/a0cnAV
 May 26 – Paris, France – http://bit.ly/aAYGOG  
 Jun 1 – Melbourne, Australa –  http://bit.ly/EzV0w
 Jun 1- Seoul, South Korea – http://bit.ly/bfqBeQ

Silverlight 4 Firestarter
 Jun 5 New York, NY, US – http://bit.ly/bSDKj4

Guest Hosts

Brian Hendersonis a Silverlight Designer/Architect and INETA Community Champion. A few of the activities Brian can be found participating are flying (pilot), kayaking, hiking, or just taking video/photos.

Kelly White is an independent Silverlight Consultant. He previously lead the PDXUX.Net user group, and now runs the Portland Silverlight User Group with Erik Mork. Kelly has presented at user groups and code camps throughout the northwest on both Silverlight and WPF.

Music kindly provided by YACHT.

 

This Week In Silverlight – Where’s the Tablet?

What’s new in Silverlight This Week in Silverlight

This is our 10th This Week In Silverlight Show!!!!

Recorded April 30, 2010

News  

*caution from Brian*

If using the old RC of Blend/VS, careful with the new Phone CTP tools.

Rumors

Courier tablet killed off?  Media Rumors

Media reports indicate that the Courier may have been killed off.  Brian was looking forward to this dual screen device :(

HP Tablet Killed Off? and iPad 3G released

What’s happening to the “tablets” in the Microsoft space?

Erik hopes that there’s a secret super cool project from Microsoft waiting in the wings… But most of the time there isn’t :(

Kelly is tired of waiting.  That’s why he bought an Android phone.

He is buying an iPad 3G.

Erik asks whether or not you can bolt on a *good* touch interface on top of a desktop OS?

Brian urges caution.  UX issues are potentially problematic.

Kelly points out that users want a marketplace.  For him, it’s all about the apps.

Erik thinks that re-using code and building on mouse events, focus events will not out-smart the users.  They’ll use.

Brian points out that with touch, there can be multiple points of interaction with touch.  This is in stark contrast to the mouse.

Brian asks if WP7 will scale up to tablet level

Erik points out that Apple faced the same thing with OSX versus iPhone OS on the iPad.  They chose iPhone OS, and Erik hopes that the powers that be in Microsoft make a similar choice.

Erik points out that for the best practitioners of Ux: interfaces will change between devices.   Application code can be reused but the UI cannot be reused across desktop, phone and slate devices.

Application of the Week (50 this week)

50 Applications from Noupe

Guest Hosts

Brian Hendersonis a Silverlight Designer/Architect and INETA Community Champion. A few of the activities Brian can be found participating are flying (pilot), kayaking, hiking, or just taking video/photos.

Kelly White is an independent Silverlight Consultant. He previously lead the PDXUX.Net user group, and now runs the Portland Silverlight User Group with Erik Mork. Kelly has presented at user groups and code camps throughout the northwest on both Silverlight and WPF.

Music kindly provided by YACHT.

 

This Week In Silverlight April 23 2010

What’s new in Silverlight This Week in Silverlight

Recorded April 23, 2010

News  

Public Service Announcements

Portland CodeCamp May 22.

Remix Atlanta May 8.

Karl Shifflet does WPF for LOB and Win7/.NET 4 training.  Also, keep an eye on his blog for upcoming info.

Rumors

 WP7 Phones (or news??) coming in the next few weeks?

Does this interview indicate that phones are coming soon?

Erik and Brian are a little skeptical :(

More Silverlight Jobs?

In Portland (at least) more and more Silverlight jobs are cropping up.

Multitasking in WP7

There’s very limited multitasking support in WP7.  And perhaps no backgrounding for 3rd party apps.

Erik thinks that maybe there’s a cue to take from Apple’s new iPhone OS4 where there are “Completion Tasks” that are allowed to run for up to 10 minutes (as of beta 2…) in the background.

Justin Angel fooled us

He didn’t hack the Zune up to run WP7 :(

 

Application of the Week (2 this week)

Audio Orchard Music Mixing application.

Ebay Application. Out of the Browser Silverlight app that allows the listing of items.  Make sure to check out John Papa’s walkthrough.

Guest Hosts

Brian Hendersonis a Silverlight Designer/Architect and INETA Community Champion. A few of the activities Brian can be found participating are flying (pilot), kayaking, hiking, or just taking video/photos.

Kelly White is an independent Silverlight Consultant. He previously lead the PDXUX.Net user group, and now runs the Portland Silverlight User Group with Erik Mork. Kelly has presented at user groups and code camps throughout the northwest on both Silverlight and WPF.

Music kindly provided by YACHT.

 

This Week in Silverlight 4.1.2010

What’s new in Silverlight This Week in Silverlight

Recorded April 1, 2010 

Shout Out to MVPs

@brian_henderson/silverlight-mvp

@brian_henderson/blend-mvp

  

News   

Rumors  

iPad – list of HTML5 sites that will work on the iPad.  

Silverlight vs HTML5  

Erik wonders if the HTML5 spec really competes with Silverlight at all.  The types of problems we often solve in Silverlight (tracking of entities, etc.) aren’t even in the spec…

Brian wonders if the spec will be done in anything like the near future.  

Kelly wonders about the browser specific implementations of HTML5 and browser compatability.  

Justin Angel hacks up a ZuneHD to run WP7….
Windows Phone Marketplace
Kelly talks about the process of getting into the marketplace.   It looks like a much more straightforward process than other marketplaces.

Application of the Week 

FourSquare Everywhere 

  

  

DownloadDownload Podcast   

Guest Hosts

  

Brian Hendersonis a Silverlight Designer/Architect and INETA Community Champion. A few of the activities Brian can be found participating are flying (pilot), kayaking, hiking, or just taking video/photos.  

  

Kelly White is an independent Silverlight Consultant. He previously lead the PDXUX.Net user group, and now runs the Portland Silverlight User Group with Erik Mork. Kelly has presented at user groups and code camps throughout the northwest on both Silverlight and WPF.  

Music kindly provided by YACHT.

This Week in Silverlight – February 11th 2010

New Show Format! 

This show we try a new format.  We’ll keep putting out shows in the old format as well, but this is a good chance to have a less formal discussion about Silverlight news and information.  The idea is to talk about the week’s Silverlight news with a couple of my favorite Silverlight folks:

Brian Henderson is a Silverlight Designer/Architect and INETA Community Champion.  A few of the activities Brian can be found participating are flying (pilot), kayaking, hiking, or just taking video/photos.

Kelly White is a Senior Software Engineer with MyContent.com. He previously lead the PDXUX.Net user group, and now runs the Portland Silverlight User Group with Erik Mork. Kelly has presented at user groups and code camps throughout the northwest on both Silverlight and WPF.

What’s new in Silverlight This Week in Silverlight

Application of the Week

Silverlight 4 Facebook Application (Silverlight 4 Beta runtime required)

Rumors

Silverlight Mobile tools coming in “the coming weeks” according to the Gu

Nokia support in the not-to-distant future according to the the Gu

Balmer is Keynoting next week in Barcelona and talking about Windows Mobile…. Big News Coming?

Zune Phone support indicated by stray .dlls?

Silverlight News

( For Silverlight News, I highly recommend the info from Silverlight Cream)

New Navigation Framework Stuff - Hacking at the Navigation Framework in Silverlight 4.  A great, simple article.

Silverlight TV#7 with Glenn Block and MEF - When to use MEF.  But is the answer clear?…

Glenn’s MSDN article on MEF

Tim’s Post on the Silverlight Media Framework – It’s not just for smooth streaming media :) The Silverlight Media Framework is on Codeplex.

Visual Studio 2010 RC doesn’t support Silverlight 4 Beta (watch out!).  See Brian’s LIDNUG info for why this is unlikely to last long.

 Parting Thought:  There’s now a Frogger clone, but where are the mind-blowing Silverlight games?  Is it mainly a financial issue?

In Portland on February 19th and interested in Silverlight?  Shawn Wildermuth is talking at the Portland Silverlight User Group.

 

How to pick the right frameworks for building Silverlight Applications

If you’re at the PDC conference in LA, I’m doing a Birds of a Feather session on Thursday at 8:30am.  It’s going to be a community talk about the right tools to use in Silverlight.  Data Access, Prism, Unity, MEF, RIA Services, Unit Testing, are the sort of things we’ll be talking about.  It’s going to be a fun discussion!

MEF and Prism

In this show, we look at Prism and the Managed Extensibility Framework or MEF. What are the differences?  How do they overlap?  We have the perfect guide: Glenn Block! He’s worked on MEF and Prism, and he helps us sort them out.

In this show:

  • Prism and MEF are complementary.  Since Prism can swap IoC containers, MEF can slide into that slot.  At the moment, this is a bit of a trick, though.  Glenn will be blogging on how to accomplish this.
  • For the moment, unless you’re willing to dive into Prism/MEF code, Prism is probably the technology you’re going to use for Separation Of Concerns in larger applications.
  • Prism and MEF may be teaming up in the future, and we’ll get the best of both worlds.
  • If you’re thinking about 3rd party extensibility, MEF has some great support for that.

Glenn Block

Glenn Block

MEF and Silverlight

In this show, we explore Managed Extensibility Framework (MEF) and Silverlight. Our guide is none other than Glenn Block!

In this show:

  • MEF makes Silverlight applications extensible.  Think about a custom CRM system.  Sometimes we want to customize those applications per customer and MEF/Silverlight makes that easy.
  • Other technologies (think Modules in Prism) can lead to bloat.  MEF allows a heirarchy of modularity.  Modules can be broken down into modules and those modules can be further broken down.
  • It’s in the works to allow MEF to dynamically load UI pieces into the XAML.  There’s the potential to add members to a MVVM ViewModel and have those members drive the generation of pieces of the UI…
Glenn Block

Glenn Block

videoSilverlight MEF Video

Thanks to Jona from YACHT for his great music.

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